Goodell and Steelers Collaborate (Collude) on Roethlisberger Punishment

By: Joe D.

According to reports, the Pittsburgh Steelers are in discussions with the league office regarding punishment of their two-time Super Bowl winning quarterback, Ben Roethlisberger.  They will collaborate to have one punishment exacted upon Roethlisberger rather than two seperate punishments.

I believe the Steelers organization is taking this action for two reasons.  First, it is a strong public relations response to appease their fanbase who are fed up with the sophmoric behavior of their star quarterback.  They wish to appear pro-active in the punishment phase.  Secondly, the Steelers organization may be able to minimize the effects of the punishment by lobbying for an easier schedule during Roethlisberger’s absense.

If the Steelers were genuinely interested in punishing Roethlisberger, the organization would wait until the league’s decision and then add an additional suspension.  I sincerely doubt the Steelers would add any additional games to an 8 games suspension or even wish to add one game to a 2 game suspension.  What the organization is doing is tantamount to asking to put their name on a card when they haven’t contributed to a gift.  ”I would have gotten them something nice, but I was just too busy.  You know how it is, right?”  In this case, the Steelers are too cowardly to reprimand Roethlisberger in any meaningful way.  Certainly fans are not so naive to believe the league will impose only a two game suspension and the Steelers suggest adding several more weeks.

It is unlikely Roethlisberger’s suspension will be greater than two games.  As most fans know, a 2 games out of a 16 game schedule can determine whether a team makes the playoffs and consequently whether they will be contending for a Super Bowl.  If the Steelers can manage with Charlie Batch at QB during that stretch finishing either 1-1 or 2-0, the Steelers chances at being a Super Bowl contender are not heavily diminished.

The announcement of the 2010 NFL schedule has been delayed for a variety of reasons.  Roethlisberger’s punishment will be announced soon.  The league will deny that Roethlisberger’s punishment affects the schedule.  Obviously the Steelers would prefer winnable games during that stretch; additionally, it is in the best interest of the league to not have a Monday Night game with Batch leading the Steelers onto the field?

The 2010 NFL schedule will be released on April 20, 2010.  I am not clairvoyant, but it isn’t a stretch of the imagination to predict the Steelers will be playing weak opponents to start 2010.  I would be incredibly surprised if the Steelers play either a good divisional opponent (Ravens or Bengals) or a Super Bowl contender (e.g, New England, New York Jets, or New Orleans Saints).  The suspension will undoubtedly come at the beginning of the season, giving the Steelers organization a full pre-season schedule to acclimate Batch into a starting role against soon to be announced inferior opponents.

While the Steelers finished with an 9-7 record in 2009, they are quite talented and are poised to add additional playmakers in the 2010 draft (2 picks in the top 52 selections).   If the team is given junior varsity games (Browns, Buccaneers, Bills) to start the season, the player may be punished monetarily, but not the franchise.

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Once again, to tie it all together, Roeth suspended for 4-6 games.

Per Don Banks of SI, the Steelers have a managable schedule, similar to what I was saying.

"The NFL schedule-maker also seems to have done the Steelers a bit of a favor in the season's first month, at least giving Pittsburgh a chance to endure Roethlisberger's absence. The Steelers open at home against Atlanta, travel to Tennessee and Tampa Bay in Weeks 2 and 3, and return home to face division rival Baltimore in Week 4. That's starting the season with three opponents that didn't make the playoffs in 2009 -- although both the Falcons and Titans were two of the league's better non-playoff teams by year's end -- before getting a stern challenge in the form of the visiting Ravens."

Furthermore, Banks says "The Steelers' newly released schedule features five primetime games this season, but all of them fall between Weeks 8-16, a scenario which now seems to be anything but a coincidence."

So maybe I am paranoid, but I'm not the only one.

To finish this off, I was kinda right, but not entirely. The first three games the Steelers play are Falcons in Pitt, @ the Titans, and @ the Bucs.

As indicated, the first games aren't against the Super Bowl contenders: New England, New York Jets, or New Orleans Saints.

But the Falcons and the Titans aren't pushovers either. So I will plead no contest.

This guy doesn't do his homework. Batch isn't the number two quarterback, Dixon is.the Steelers had a 9-7 record in 2009 not 8-8. I don't think he has a clue.

As I said earlier, I buy mea culpas in bulk. You are right, they did finish 9-7. I'm make the necessary correction, though their improved record actually strengthens my argument.

Batch was the backup last year and Dixon played because both Roeth and Batch were injured. It's quite possible that Dixon has subsequently ascended to the #2 spot, but we are barely at voluntary workouts. I don't think the backup QB position will be determined until later in the off-season and through the 3rd game of the pre-season. Especially if you consider that the first few games the #2 QB will be the #1 QB.

But I do appreciate your correction.

As a long time Steeler fan ( + 30 years ) I'm totally embarrassed by the whole mess. There can't be two sets of rules and as good as Ben is, I hope he is traded. Friends of mine called me a fool, but it is my opinion.
If the Steelers don't get the locker room back under control, they will not be in the playoffs and good for them. I feel bad for the hard working players that depend on the team leaders. Ben let more that just himself and family down.

I recall trying to defend Mike Irvin after his suspension for drug use. I loved Irvin, but it was just difficult to defend. I gave Kobe the benefit of the doubt, and I did the same for Roethlisberger after the first offense, but the 2nd certainly seems like a pattern of behavior. Maybe he's innocent, maybe.

2 games is more than enough for a person who was cleared of everything. I dont care about anything else. So there.

I’m just throwing the Steelers organization under the bus too because it’s fun.

Realy? And people are supposed to take this site seriously? I guess you keep me coming back with how stupid your "articles" are. It amazes me more and more how ridiculous this site is. Will you be coming on here to apologize if the Steelers play Baltimore or Cinci in the first week or two?

I'm pretty good about following up on my articles. I also enjoy dry humor. The comment about the Steelers is part speculation and part humor. Obviously you have interpreted it the way you want.

If there is a prediction set forth, then I come back later if there was a resolution. We shouldn't have to wait long since the 2010 schedule will be released next Tuesday night.

I have a full bag of mea culpas. I buy in bulk at Costco because I'm certainly not 100% on my predictions.

I will throw out that if Ben's suspension is 4 games or longer, my thesis goes out the window. It would be all but impossible to put all the bad teams (based on last year) into the early part of the schedule. After reading the specifics of the complaint, 2 games doesn't seem like enough.

Oh, I agree, 2 games seems weak.

The league is withholding the release of the schedule and will give the Steelers easy games if Rothlisbeger gets suspended?? You are an idiot. I hope you don't actually get paid to write. Cut your ponytail and move out of your parents basement. What a complete moron.

It's not just the Roethlisberger matter. The Jets and the Giants had their pouting session which helped with the delay. And at this point, it's not if he is suspended - it's how many weeks the commissioner sees fit to give.

I tend not to lean toward conspiracies, but I also don't believe the league wants to put a marquee match up (Steelers v. New Orleans) where one team is heavily disadvantaged in regards to personnel. I'm just throwing the Steelers organization under the bus too because it's fun.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl...

Update on the Georgia situation. According to reports it's actually worse than I was assuming. I figured he put a full court press on the girl and was rebuffed. Allegedly he committed a personal (if not flagrant) foul. Not cool Ben, not cool.

Until the schedule comes out next week, I think I'm done with this topic. It's all just a little too filthy for me.

One quick point before I go, this morning on ESPN's Sportscenter they addressed the above reports. They quoted the victim as saying, "I don't think we should do this."

That's not the quote that matters. It was the one that says, "No, this is not OK." The first implies reluctance due to location or timing, the latter indicates that what was to occur was rape.

I take offense to ESPN protecting Ben. If you aren't going to report what's important, then don't report.

Robbie,

I didn't think you being rude. I like a civil discourse with knowledgeable fans. That's not always the case over the interwebs. I think my point is still the same even if Dixon is the #2 QB. They have a full 4 games to get him game ready for potentially 2 easier games.

Roeth said that he would accept whatever punishment was handed down so the players union wouldn't really come into play unless Roeth filed a complaint, but I see your point.

Also, the Steelers have historically had questionable character guys on their team and they have accommodated them just as much as other NFL teams. (I read an article just the other day about it. I'll reference it when I get the chance). The Rooney's just have been such good owners (by comparison) that the franchise has a better reptuation than may be deserved. The Steelers of the 70's were ROIDED up which gave them a significant advantage over the COKED up Cowboys.

As for Vegas, it depends on which side of the fence you are standing. I'm not going to speculate, but I don't entirely dismiss those claims as you do.

I'm a Cowboys fan so I can't stand Ben and it annoys me that he has two rings (one of which he didn't really deserve, though the rest of the team certainly earned the rings).

I sincerely doubt the Steelers will trade him. Finding and developing a QB is not as easy as the Patriots make it look, let alone one that can be a Super Bowl winner. Look at the Eagles, they have had 3 really good QB's historically, none of which were Super Bowl winning caliber QB's.

And you may be right about the Steelers not actively lobbying for easier games, but I don't believe the league wants to have the team with the 2nd best TV ratings on prime-time with a backup QB (Cowboys are #1!!!). The old saying is that it never hurts to ask. Maybe they ask in the back room. Maybe it is the Rooney way to get your way by asking nicely and in a whisper.

This is definately the most enjoyable conversation I've had tonight.

It's true that they have had some questionable characters but none of the tolerable ones were serial offenders. I also agree that the steelers are not the vanguard of moral standards as some seem to think, alot of this is probably attributed to cheap ass owners who rarely pay to keep or sign great players who come with baggage. I can't speak too much of the 70's but I've read numerous articles that state the use of roids during that time was more of the rule than the exception.

I'm not sure if we're thinking of the same vegas incident, I'm speaking of the andrea mcnulty case. Her email and texts only speak of her mental case and what she hoped to obtain.

You may be suprised about this, but as a steelers fan, I also cannot stand Ben, I think the team would be significantly better if we had a QB who knew when to get rid of the ball. Throwing the ball away causes the defense to plan accordingly and not bring the house every play trying to get to ben, and it also allows your lineman some rest and helps in the short yardage situations and running plays.

So I do doubt the steelers will trade him, but let dixon start 2-4 real games and if he proves successful, don't be suprised if the organization trades ben aware as being expendable.

I live in the Washington, DC area and cannot stand the redskins, please, please, please dallas destroy the skins this year!

I'm thinking about Lake Tahoe, so maybe we are talking about two different things. I think Romo needs to be better about throwing the ball away as well, but when he does he inevitably winds up getting called for intentional grounding. Personally I think grounding should only be called when the QB is about to be sacked.

I have been on the record as saying that the Steelers O-line isn't as bad as reported. You could put an all-pro line in front of him and they would still give up a league high in sacks.

As for Dixon, (cliche alert) the most popular player is always the backup QB. Though I don't have a hankering for Kitna just yet.

Didn't mean to sound rude (I'm at work venting my frustration). If you look at the steelers depth charts, dixon is listed as #2,they only brought brittle bones batch back as a veteran backup (just signed a two-yr deal).

What more could the steelers do? We are talking about one alleged crime that is not being prosecuted (if anyone thinks the vegas rape is legitimate, they're an idiot-read the evidence)I think we would/will see that the steelers trade BB if anyone such as the raiders, seahawks, etc pony up the draft picks. Besides the players union will only allow them to impose discipline to a certain extent.

My last disagreement comes forth from your suggesting that the organization would lobby to have easier games played during his suspension. That is definately not the Rooney way. We are talking about the steelers here not the Ravens who last year petitioned the league to not play in pittsburgh during the prime time game.

when talking about financial fines, please don't forget his sponsorships as well ($2 million from jerky, and nike is also going to pull their sponsorship) we are probably looking closer to $7 - $8 million in loses.

Nice attempt at writing a decent article, but your facts are wrong. Batch is the 3rd QB on the team, Dennis Dixon is the 2nd QB. If you watched Dixon's only start last season (Baltimore) you would know that very few people would be heartbroken to see this young fellow play the entire season, he is good. All you mentioned were game suspensions, how about financial ramifications. The league suspends him for 2-3 games and the team fines him $250,000 and suggests counseling for conduct detrimental. Seems pretty fair to me for not being charged.

Robbie,

Despite living amongst the wolves, I may be wrong about their backup quarterbacks. After your post, I checked Wikipedia (and yes that source can be deceptive) and it said that Dixon started because both Roeth and Batch were injured.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Dixon

So maybe Dixon does become the #2 QB, but I'm not rushing to change the article quite yet.

As for the financial ramifications, sure it will be a big chunk of change for you and for me. Again, per the Wiki Roethlisberger six-year contract worth $22.26 million in salaries and bonuses, with an additional $17.73 million available via incentives. On March 4, 2008, he agreed to an eight-year, $102 million contract.

Exactly how much of that is/was Monopoly money or straight cash (homie) I don't know. He certainly may miss the 2-ish million he will be losing, but he won't wind up like Vick (signing a 100 million dollar contract and then losing 80% of it because he went to jail).

As for not being charged, I agree 2 games suspended (and 2 game checks) is fair. What I really object to is that the pretense that the Steelers are punishing him too.

So Dixon came in against a team that had no game film on him, albeit with a strong defense, and completed 12-of-26 for 145 yards, one touchdown and a pick and you're ready to hand him the keys to your team? Dude can run, but I wouldn't be convinced about him yet.

Everything is bigger in Texas.... except your weiner.

I was just in Texas for 10 days. Oddly enough my butt got bigger (thanks Whataburger), but nothing in the genital region.