Blockbuster Trade Alert: Brady Traded for Peyton…

By: Joe D.

Quinn for Hillis, that is.  Maybe it’s not such a blockbuster trade (Quinn to Denver), but it certainly is a bullet dodged by the Dallas Cowboys.

The year was 2007, the Cowboys were coming off of a disheartening loss to the Seattle Seahawks in the wild-card round of the playoffs.  Questions were swirling around undrafted free agent quarterback Tony Romo.  The Cowboys team was mediocre towards the end of the 2006 season losing three of four games (Saints, Eagles, and Lions), and Romo bobbled a go ahead field goal.  Will he recover from the stigma of the bobble, did NFL defensive coordinators figure him out, or was he a flash in the pan like Scott Mitchell?

The Cowboys moved past the Drew Bledsoe era, but how confident were they in Romo?  Certainly the two best quarterbacks in the 2007 draft wouldn’t slip all the way to #22.  Would the Cowboys be willing to trade up to secure their long term future at the game’s most important position.

Come draft day, Jamarcus Russell is taken 1st overall by the Oakland Raiders.  Cleveland expressed interest in Quinn; would he go at #3? Nope.  It was later reported that the Cleveland management told Quinn they were going with tackle, Joe Thomas.  Quinn was crestfallen as he wished to play for the team he rooted for, but it wasn’t meant to be.

There were many teams who had yet to find their franchise QB though they had invested high picks already at the QB position.  Arizona had taken Matt Leinart the previous year, the Redskins were still developing Jason Campbell, and the Vikings were developing Tarvaris Jackson, a second round pick from the previous year.  There was absolutely no way the Miami Dolphins would pass up a franchise quarterback.  They had a new offensive minded head coach, Cam Cameron, and it was simply a match made in heaven.  With the 9th pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select Tedd Ginn, Jr. What?  Who’s going to throw to Ginn?  Later that weekend, Coach Cameron said that the fans would be excited to see Ginn on special teams as a returner.  Apparently he didn’t get the memo that special teams players aren’t drafted in the first round, unless you are Oakland.

Then came the painful 2 and 1/2 hour tumble to #22.  You may ask what I was doing after Reggie Nelson was taken at #21 by the Jaguars (though you also may question, “Why do I care?”).  I’ll answer the latter first, you don’t (feel free to skip ahead).  As for the former, I was bouncing off the walls, jumping up and down, and yelling at the top of my lungs.  Why?  Not because I wanted Quinn to be drafted by the Dallas Cowboys, but rather I KNEW this was the spot where a team would trade up to get Quinn.  I knew Jerry Jones would hold this bait out and reel in a big fish.

Enter the Browns.  They initially offered their 2008 first round draft pick and their 2007 3rd round pick.  Jerry wouldn’t pull the trigger as he knew the Cowboys needed a replacement for aging veteran Greg Ellis.  Jerry stood firm and Cleveland blinked first.  We received the 2008 first round draft pick and the 2007 2nd round pick.  Long story short, we traded the 2nd round pick, 3rd, and a 5th to Eagles to draft Anthony Spencer.  The 2008 pick became Felix Jones.  By virtue of trading down four spots, we picked up two cornerstones to the Dallas Cowboys.

This is all ancient history, so why bring it up?  While the Cowboys were on the clock making the above arrangements, Mel Kiper, “draft expert”, vociferously stated that we should absolutely draft Quinn to groom him to be the Cowboys QB of the future.  He opined that Quinn was absolutely a better QB than Romo.  It was at that point that I realized there wasn’t an Easter Bunny, Santa, or a Draft Expert.  From then on, I only considered Kiper to be an encyclopedia.  Tons of useful information about Borneo and plate tectonics, but if you are looking for life lessons to shape your future, he’s not the resource you want.

And so only 3 years later, Quinn is traded for a fullback (originally drafted in the seventh round), a 6th round pick in 2011, a conditional pick in 2012,  and a Costco sized bag of Doritos.  So as we sit down to 23 hours of draft infotainment in one month, please take the analysis of the experts with a grain of salt… unless your drinking margaritas, then feel free to salt up the rim of your glass.

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good!thanks!

Thats what happens when you actually get drafted! In my opinion I highly doubt the QB coaches were a key to Romo's success. I doubt they "developed" the un-drafted 3rd string QB as well as you think. Tony was probably on the back burner of the QB trio anyways. Seriously im not trying to be a jerk, but have you really watched Romo play? He does not play like someone who was groomed and developed through the years to become a franchise QB like a A. Rodgers. Romo makes plays that only Romo can make and I believe that is his god given talent not development. What we saw this season out of Romo looked more like the result of development.

Was Quinn pushed? He didn't start that first year, and he only came in after Anderson was wildly ineffective the 2nd year, and Quinn got hurt and didn't have to play. Maybe I'm thinking of his first year. I don't pay attention to the Browns.

But Quinn was in the same West Coast offensive system in college, and then in the pros. And he's going to another West Coast offense. I agree players can thrive in one system and not another, but I don't see Quinn having the light bulb come on.

And I think the success doesn't breed success, but rather those in charge are either incompetent or they are competent. The year the lions went 7-9 was followed up by 0-16. Numbers might be off a bit, I could care less about the Lions.

couple points of comparison.

- Tony had the best case to develop. LONG time learning the system (years) of no pressure to become a pro before needed. The coaching staff for QBs should be rewarded well for the system of developing Tony. If Quin had the same system I dare say he would be successfull in the same system. Pushed too early causes problem in more QBs then it helps.

- Winning breeds success and confidence. Don't need to explain the history of winning in a Cowboys uniform vs. no success in the Brown system. Use this for comparison of most any pro profession. Baseball, football, soccer etc.. There is regular success in the top 15% of teams in any divison you choose to review.

FYI, I revised the title. I was looking at it this morning, and this seems more interesting.

They had to have a trade..even a bad one..They had to save face for using a number one pick on Brady..

Kinda sounds like JJ and Roy Williams..Look for a trade next season..Some spare player and a bag of chips..

When a former first-round quarterback gets traded for a workhorse running back, which are a dime a dozen in the NFL, something's wrong. I mean, the Browns think they're better off with Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace. The Broncos are rolling the dice here. If they don't get jack out of Quinn, then they won't be any worse off really.

To the david that thinks quinn is going to better than romo..you are about as ignorant as they come..ive been posting on here for two years now as david so find another name please so the people on here can know which is the football intelligent person me and the football ignorant person you is...

Brady Quinn never will be a successful QB in this league..Cleveland..with no QB'S gave him up for nothing..

The Broncos..another team without a QB..took a flyer..

His QB rating in the NFL is 67.2..Loser numbers

Zinc bushing, flange part....on the other hand...Phillips screw driver, pork sausage, flipper-de-jibit, oink blossom, horse parts.
But, I stil think that florg-spleen, blasderk, hormflack.
So just try to deny that!

Just goes to show it's hard to tell how a player will turn out for your team when you draft them. This is a totally different example bc he had success in SD, but look at Drew Brees. The Chargers got him later in the draft (too lazy to look up when, but not a top draft pick) and they let him go when they have to let Rivers play and then he wins a Super Bowl w/the Saints. The Jets go farther in 09 w/Sanchez than w/(an injured) Favre in 08. And the Vikings could never have anticipated having Favre in 09 and (hopefully) 10.
Check out my Bleacher Report site and the article I just wrote on the trade: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/362837-brady-qu...

i know all to well, joe. i'm the worst grammer boy here. who cares.....you made some great points, and we all knew exactally what you were saying....thanks for the hard work you are doing a fine job sir....keep it going.

The above post is a brief look behind the curtain and quite reflective of how awful my first drafts look. Grammar is a cruel mistress.

Well said TDCowboys.

It's late, I need to get to bed.

RR,

Wow. Let's address your points:

Quinn had nothing around him in Cleveland.

The following year Cleveland, with a soft schedule won 10 games with Derek Anderson. Anderson imploded, but to say there wasn't any talent there is just wrong. Actually they have traded much of their talent, Winslow and Edwards. Maybe they were flawed defensively and at running back, but to assert they had no talent is just wrong.

Romo wouldn’t have fared any better there.

Romo improves the Cowboys offense quite a bit. Our offensive line's ability to run block and pass block isn't spectacular. Quite often, it is Romo's improvisation that leads to big plays and equally as often, turnovers. Romo is also quite accurate from the pocket and while on the run. He has a quick release which gets the ball out of his hands and instant faster than most QB's in the league. I think the Cleveland offense would be much improved, but I doubt it would be reflected in their record considering their defense has been spotty, to be kind.

Romo has put up stats like Danny White did.

Football is a team game. To say a QB is the determining factor in who wins the Super Bowl is both Naive and ignorant. If Crayton makes the catch against the Giants, maybe the outcome of the game changes. If Witten pushes the Seattle defenders 3 more inches, it's first and goal and we can run out the clock and either score a TD or kick a FG with no time left on the clock.

Do you also negate the career of Marino or Jim Kelly?

He’s 30 this season, as you mentioned, and starting to groom his replacement in 4 years will be too late.

My first article addressed this issue, and personally I'm hoping the next great Dallas QB is in High School. That would give us 5 or so years of Tony, hopefully performing at a high level.

No matter what the final analysis of Quinn is, passing on him was not smart.

The year the Chargers took Ryan Leaf, the 2nd players on the Chargers draft board was Andre Wadsworth. The GM at the time has since said that if the Colts chose Leaf, the Chargers were going to take Wadsworth. If not for Leaf, Wadsworth would be the poster boy for being a draft bust. Just because you rate a player high, doesn't mean squat. It just means you did a bad job establishing your board, and you need to do more research as to why you were wrong about a player.

I guess he forgot that Aikman came into his own when Steve Walsh was drafted to compete with Troy.

Walsh was drafted in the supplemental draft, so both QB's were rookies. Jimmy was smart, and he was hedging his bet on Aikman being good. God forbid we surround an awful QB with the best talent of the decade. Sure Jimmy pushed competition at every position, but the Cowboys traded Walsh the following year. They determined Aikman to be the better long-term answer. If you were right about this, then they would kept Walsh around longer and not trusted back up duties to Steve Beuerlein.

Keep in mind, the old cliche' that if you have two QB's, then you have none. Ask Staubach how well the "competition" between him and Craig Morton? It tore the team apart. At any other position other than QB, I would agree competition is a good thing. Certainty at the QB spot is often more important.

...Nick Folk was better than Mason Crosby. I think we know how that turned out since we had to carry two kickers on the active roster last season.

Kickers? Really? They are the more neurotic players in football. They can be great on year and cut the next. Jimmy Johnson cut Lynn Elliot, who helped win a Super Bowl the year prior. Why, because Elliot lost his confidence. Your really picking nits. Folk was as good as you could hope for, for 2 years.

I prefer a GM who is dedicated to the Cowboys’ roster and reports directly to the owner, who holds him responsible. Maybe I’m the only one.

I prefer a GM who makes solid picks, and especially has a high rate or hits in the first and 2nd round. Look at the roster. Practically the entire roster is made up of draft picks from the past 7 years. There are a few notable exceptions, but this is a team that was constructed the right way. I will say that I hated Jerry in the late 90's, but he's gotten his act together and I respect that he was willing to change the way he was doing things in order affect change on the field.

I think its sad that Romo will never get the credit he deserves until he wins a Superbowl. It's unfair to discredit all he has accomplished as a undrafted free agent. For all you that measure greatness by Superbowls and dismiss actual stats you are saying Trent Dilfer was a great QB. If your going to judge QB's on Superbowls then your saying every QB that has ever won a SB is great. I disagree I believe stats matter as well as Superbowls, but to only go by one category is ridiculous.

Another thing that is ridiculous is to compare Romo to Quinn. To say Romo wouldn't have fared any better then Quinn is a ridiculous statement. If D. Anderson can throw for 3,787 yards and 29 TD's with virtually the same team why couldn't Quinn?
To further my point Romo didn't just inherit a stacked team and hit cruise control. D. Bledsoe was at the helm of the same team and we were not good. Then Romo replaces him and we are a totally different team winning ball games, making the playoffs and winning division titles. We haven't had a losing season with him at the helm. Romo is easily in the top five QB's playing today and saved the Dallas Cowboys.

Bevo...

One reason I would be wary of trying to develop Quinn at this stage of his career is that he's always been in the west coast offense. Charlie Weis ran a watered down version of the WC offense. When he got to Cleveland, Romeo Crennel was a defensive mastermind, but he took the WC offense to Cleveland. It's not like Quinn was shell shocked the way David Carr was. Quinn had a year or two on the bench to get acclimated to the system.

Again, I have nothing against Quinn, but I would be hard pressed to spend one dollar on him thinking he would be good.

Quinn had nothing around him in Cleveland. Romo wouldn't have fared any better there. Denver will be a better chance for him to prove whether he is a franchise quarterback. You can't really judge this one until it's all over. Romo has put up stats like Danny White did, but that isn't the measurement of success as a quarterback. We need to be drafting a top-tier qb to compete with Romo. He's 30 this season, as you mentioned, and starting to groom his replacement in 4 years will be too late.

No matter what the final analysis of Quinn is, passing on him was not smart. He was the highest rated player on our draft board and the highest rated player left on all of the other teams' boards. Jerry said he passed not because of Quinn's lack of talent but because he wanted Tony to know that he trusted in him. I guess he forgot that Aikman came into his own when Steve Walsh was drafted to compete with Troy. To heck with what Troy thought, said Jimmy Johnson. May the best quarterback win the competition. If we had drafted Quinn, both Romo and Quinn would be better for it.

And, I was perplexed when Jerry went to the Senior Bowl with stopwatch around his neck and decided that all of the stats were irrelevant, and that Nick Folk was better than Mason Crosby. I think we know how that turned out since we had to carry two kickers on the active roster last season. If you follow the draft, you can go on forever with these observations. I prefer a GM who is dedicated to the Cowboys' roster and reports directly to the owner, who holds him responsible. Maybe I'm the only one.

OK..The linking of Blockbuster Trade Alert and Brady Quinn is just wrong..I mean Cleveland with no QB wanted to dump the guy..

Just another in a long list of over rated Notre Dame QB'S..I see another this season in Cluassen..Hey maybe Cleveland can draft him..

Now that would be a Blockhead Draft Alert..

BTW..david..Quinn better than Romo..Sounds like a Foreskin crack addict..LOL..Quit now..save what little is left of your brain..

In 10 years, Romo will be 40 years old. I'm guessing he will be retired at that point. It's not unprecedented that a QB will go from one awful team where there is talent surrounding them and will actually play well.

Steve Young went from the Bucs to become a hall of famer with the Niners. Jim Plunkett played well once going to the Raiders, and ditto with Rich Gannon.

I have nothing personal against Quinn, though I'm not sure he will ever be good. I think he was overrated in college, and he certainly hasn't done much at the pro-ranks.

isn't history wonderful? and david, i think romo has already made a place for himself in dallas lore. he'll be fine. peyton manning has only 1 superbowl win, and he's considered maybe the best ever already? we'll lets just say romo pulls one out of his ass and wins one himself. then where do you rank him? he's close, a hell of a lot closer then quinn is. so what's 10years from now have anything to do with tommorrow?

I'm gonna laugh at you 10yrs from now when Brady Quinn is a 1000 times better than Tony "homo"Romo..

One thing I gotta say is our drafting has gotten a lot better in the last 7 years. I just would love Dallas to get a couple young linemen in this draft.