Pacman May Get Shot If He Screws Up

Great work cvilly. You expain this all very well, and yes you are right. It is all speculation saying that he will play better. I am optimistic that he will play better and that is what I have been saying all along, but as far as fact, yea it is all speculation. The health of the secondary surrounding him is also another BIG factor. These young guys look promising, but without Hamlin, Newman, or even Henry, it could turn out like last year where he is having to pick up where these guys who lack experience around him have him playing clean up. Face it, who REALLY sucked back there last year. Nate Jones and Jacques Reeves played like crap, and they got to play way too much mostly due to injuries. Roy had a lot of trouble with the BIG TE's. All these things you mention, New D-line coach, secondary coach, better CB's and PLUS the LB which you mention could be VERY important (as it is that he stays healthy). Zach Thomas can cover a TE. All these guys staying healthy and some changes in his assignments (Roy), and I don't see how he can't be better for the team. That is all I am saying. Speculation...yes, but when most everyone is saying he's an all out bust, that is crap. He was second on the team in tackles. If the guys in front of him were doing their damn job (namely Reeves and Jones) he wouldn't have, and shouldn't of had near that many. So as far as that goes yea, Redskins Guy and even WestCoastSkins, I will say that if Roy's assignment is to man up that BIG TE, then they (the guys around him) may tend to take their eye off of, and be distracted from their own guy (assignment, speaking of MAN coverage) that they are covering to help him out. Does that make everyone around him a liability? That is what was initialy said. That Roy Williams is a BUST and a liabilty, and that since he is a liability, that therefore makes everyone around him a liability. I think he has a weakness that has been exposed. He can't cover the BIG TE in man coverage. I am pretty sure that Wade Phillips, Brian Stewart, and Dave Campo can come together and have Witten beat him into shape in drills and practice to resolve the problem, or at least know where they stand in that aspect. These coaches have already come together on the problem. I gaurantee you that was a BIG part of their meeting with him. These coaches are going to help him get better, and his Trust in them is going to make the Whole secondary better because he is a LEADER and someone these younger guys can learn from. He has something he needs to work on as everybody does. That is what Terrance Newman was saying. He was not "ripping on" Roy. He(Roy) and the coaches know where his weakness is. So... If he can cover Witten, then these other guys will be a breeze. Get em' out there beating the hell out of each other if that's what it takes.----- You have awed the crowd cvilly. You should change your name to Shock and Awe, or like Toby Keith's album "Shockin' Ya'll" .

I missed the part between Cvilly and Guy, but yea I agree that Roy's ability would not effect the tendencies of LCB vs. RCB

West Coast:

I was just taking a quote from RedskinsGuy about Darrel Green not playing the same with Bailey as opposed to another random back-up CB. That is what I explained with that being not necessarily true because he was basically saying Green would play differently depending on who the other cornerback was. However, the relationship between Roy and Newman/Henry would be more of a direct correlation, in which I didn't address.
Roy has 19 INT's in 6 years of being a pro. He obviously has the capability of making a play on the ball. He gained a lot of weight compared to when he first came into the league which is a big reason he doesn't have the explosion in his acceleration. (This will contribute to difficulty in covering man to man, as well as why he has been missing tackles and taking bad angles; he simply can't get there as fast as he used to) He was never a speedster, but recently, his speed was truly a liability.

When Roy Williams was drafted, the war room in Dallas was split. Half of the coaching staff saw the bone-crunching, game-changing safety that he was the 1st half of his career. The other half, however, saw how Oklahoma kept the defense very generic/simple, limiting responsibility for Roy learning other aspects of the Safety position. They worried that the transition to the NFL level would be too much for him, and he would be exposed. That's why Darren Woodson was so essential to Roy's success in Dallas when he was drafted. Darren Woodson was Roy's crutch, told him where to be, made in-game adjustments at the Line of Scrimmage, and was the Defense leader. Darren Woodson is argued to be one of the smartest and most talented safeties in Dallas Cowboy history. When Woodson suffered a ruptured disk in his spine, and his career ended shorter than the staff had anticipated Woodson. Roy's blanket was gone, and thus Roy was thrusted into the lead role at the safety position. This was something he was never meant to do.

If Roy brings his weight down, he will be agile enough to perform the duties he excels at, such as playing close to the LOS, etc.

I'm not sticking up for him and saying that he played great, because he did not. However, there were positives in his game that were overlooked. With Pro-Bowl FS Ken Hamlin directing traffic in the secondary, it will be a lot easier for Roy to do what he does, instead of having him overwhelmed at Safety being forced to be the voice of the defense which he is not. When Roy had Keith Davis/Pat Watkins (rookie year) as the other safety, Roy had a lot more than he could chew; and choked.

If he drops his weight as he is supposed to, he can re-gain some of that acceleration he was lacking when in coverage. With Dave Campo coaching the secondary, you would think the CB's and S's discipline and knowledge will only progress.

Hiding deficincies in players is something coach's need to be good at in the NFL. They do not put him in the position to get beat deep very often, which is great coaching, and it's not like didn't ever have to cover deep. There are situations in games where you get a guy like out of his comfort zone, and Wade Phillips was quoted as saying "he didn't get beat deep once" not me.. As far as the trust issue, these guys are professionals. There is nothing objective that I can say to prove he will be better this year, because it's all speculative. He did make the Pro-Bowl last year based on name recognition alone; obviously. If Roy Williams covering TE's is the sole weakness of the #1 NFC seed from last year, and he can show ANY sort of improvement, then with an upgrade in the CB position, LB position, and an up-grade with the D-Line coach, then there are going to be a lot of upset NFC East fans not named Dallas fans.

Very well laid out cvilly but the first half of your essay is wasted. We arent talking about CB vs. CB. We are talking about a CB and his S. If the CB does not trust his S then yes he may be more reluctant to pass him off in zone coverage. You may see the CB stay with the WR an extra couple steps taking him out of his zone and opening up more underneath routes.

As for "not being beat deep once", everyone knows he is not the best in coverage so they play him up on the line. So how many times do you think Roy has actually had to defend the deep pass when you had another pro bowl safety in Hamlin last year?

WOW cvilly is the man....

The security team may also be an incentive for the league to reinstate him. Making sure he doesn't embarrass the league again.

CVILLY

Well done lad well done.

And I smell bullshit on your breath david

Redskins Guy:
“You can’t tell me that Darrel Green played the say way when he was working with Champ Bailey as he did when he was working with some random backup.” - Actually, I do not think you are correct with that statement.. Two CB’s lining up on opposite sides of the field will have little to no affect on how the RCB plays as opposed to the LCB (such as Green and Bailey). There is a completely different relationship on the field between two corners, and a corner/safety. Also defensive scheme dictates a lot of the “trust” you are talking about.. Zone involves more trust in passing a recieving threat along to the next defender while man to man involves you vs. the helmet in front of you.
Jerry Jones said this “Is absolutely not a make a break year” for Roy
Wade Phillips said “he’s never seen so much bashing of a player since he’s been in Dallas” and that everyone points to the negatives and doesn’t realize “he wasn’t beat deep once” during the season, even though underneath coverage wasn’t stellar, and 115 tackles/14 games = 8.2 tackles a game, which isn’t too shabby for a SS.

A lot of the stories about Newman “ripping” Roy is being taken out of context, but hey, if they can’t make a story from these kinds of interviews, they wouldn’t have jobs. Simply put, he says that Roy understands he didn’t have a good year in coverage, and gets caught like a deer-in-headlights. They neglect to include how Newman states it happens to everyone in a secondary, and you won’t find a DB in the league who was not in that position before. He goes on to say that Roy’s been working to get stronger and keep his weight down, which is what the COACHING STAFF told him to do. Maybe it wasn’t the right place or time to say that, but he answered a question, stated an honest opinion, and also committed numerous statements SUPPORTING Roy such as saying he’s the same guy that had 5 interceptions his rookie year, and was 2nd on the team in tackles (115) to Bradie James, while missing 2 full games during the season.

Also, about Dallas falling apart… why?
1) PACMAN - they gave up nothing for a chance at a stud return man/corner. Who cares if he fails, that’s why Jerry drafted Mike Jenkins 25th in the Draft... to be the nickel back...
2) ROY - Dave Campo is back in Dallas as the secondary coach, and he initially worked with Roy when he was drafted. This will help. Brian Stewart is the “Defensive Coord” but the brain of the D is Wade Phillips. Everything goes through Wade, and if you disagree Wade is a great defensive coach, that’s another debate in itself.
3) T.O. - ??? Why because his contract is up in 12 months. He is under contract, he said its a non-issue, and hasn’t said one thing negative about it
4) Newman - see above
5) Ellis - this is year number 3 in a row of his complaining; he whines more than an infant teething, but it has no affect on the team. I’d actually be surprised if an off-season passed where Ellis didn’t complain about something.. He’s upset Spencer might take more snaps, but he should want less snaps, stay fresher during games, and make more of an impact when his 33 year old body isn’t tired and beat up late in the game.

Can we think of anymore reasons why Valley Ranch might explode from inside out without creating non-story stories?

Westcoast,

I smell fear in your words bro. I'd be affraid to if I were you and your WR's....

By the way, apparently the Cowboys want an injury settlement from Glenn. So much for his comeback in Dallas.

I heard the Cowboys want to start counseling with him. I will be so excited when he screws up again that I will fly down there to personally shake his hand.

Well said David. I do think it was a great move to bring him in. Even the Redskins seemed to like it as they clearly modeled their recent trade with the Vikings after the Pac-Man deal. It was a smart move and you guys can't really lose. You can just win less.

Redskins guy,

I hate to have to agree with you but I do. I am in law enforcement and have to what we call baby sit a couple of times with athletes. He is turning a leaf over because he has to or his million dollar career is out the window and he would be slinging crack on a corner and have a cell next to Hambrick 6 months after his last screw up...Having that said RG we have him in the best no lose situation and my guess is he will be helping our secondary toying with your WR's by the 4th or 5th game of the year.

Oh yeah. He's turned over a new leaf. That's why the cowboys trust him so much they're watching him 24/7.

I'd be excited just to see the guy get on the field in a Cowboys uniform and start practicing kick returns/punt returns. I don't know if Adam will return kicks or just punts, but can you imagine having the Jones' as your two kickoff returners? man, either one is a homerun threat.

You aint kidding Mike, he needs to be reinstated NOW. Its not helping that he isn't practicing at the OTA's and meshing with his new team mates. Stop being a Deadskins fan Goodell and at least let him pratice.

#9,
I agree with you, i think Pacman has learned his lesson...and what would it hurt to allow him to practice/participate in the OTA's...which in turn would mean less time on his hands. I bet if the Patriots had signed him Goodell would have already lifted his ban...Billacheat messes with the integrity of the game and gets NOT ONE DAY SUSPENSION...it doesn't make sense.

It seems as though he has turned over a new leaf. I think he is ready. I really wish goodell would get off his high horse and let him back in the league already. if he screws up then he can ban him for life and get it over with.

First to post, so this blog is pure and untainted by a huge taint by the name of Redskins guy.