Lions Are ‘Stupid’

fantastic job truth!!!! even an idiot like me could understand that. now i know what jerry was gouing thru with his head on sunday. looks like he did a pretty damn good job there too. and came out with 2 more next yea???? fantastic!!!!! and who said jerry is ego minded. yeah he had jimmy, but he milked him and when he got what he wanted and jimmy wanted it all, well, bye bye. same with fatass. he got him to build it back thru the draft, and i beleive fatass could'nt handle the owens addition and his ego made him leave. parcells has always had that problem. it's the head cook in the kitchen thing. something about shopping for groceries bullshit. well jerry's not the ego-man everyone thinks he is. he has surounded himself with some very good minded football people if you ask me. wade phillups is one of the best 3-4 def. men in the game, and has plenty of different head coaching situations to draw from. jason garrett is one of the brightest young minds in todays game. we have some new scouts that really stepped up this year, and i'm very happy with the new coaching additions we made as well. (dave campo comes to mind!!!!) can't wait to see our secondary this year!!!!!!!! so all those that say jerry's a meddling owner, i say keep meddling jerry, i'll be very proud when all that meddling produces another superbowl trophy. thanks for your hard work and tanasidy for winning

Thank for the info the Truth. I went looking just after I posted the question, and I found it detailed on the Gryphon, but you make it a little easier to understand.  THANKS

FIRST ROUND:  We traded our #28 for Seahawks #25, swapped those picks and gave up our 5th round and 7th rounders...... 2ND ROUND:  Made our selection without any trades.......3RD ROUND:  We traded our 3rd rounder for Detroit's 4th rounder this year AND Detroit's 4th rounder next year....... 4TH ROUND:  We traded Oakland our 4th that we got from Miami (100th overall) for their 4th (104) and 7th rounder......Then we traded Cleveland 104 for their 4th (122) and 5th rounder......NOW we replaced the 5th and 7th that we traded off and have an extra 4th rounder next year......Then we traded ANOTHER 4th (111) to Cleveland for next years 3rd rounder........5TH ROUND:  We traded UP with the Jaguars for their 5th (143) giving up our 5th (155) and our 7th rounder.......6TH ROUND: Made our selection with the swapped picks we had with Miami..... no 7th round selection......... CONCLUSION: We have Cleveland's 3rd rounder and Detroit's 4th rounder in 2009 !

The Lions ARE stupid. They could probably get some good value for Williams.-Mikewww.pitchingideas.net  

Well said Dave. I think Jerry did pretty damn good in these draft selections, and if #9's prediction is right, if Jerry had traded those picks we would have Roy Williams instead of Felix Jones and Mike Jenkins. I didn't think Jenkins, DRC, or McKelvin would fall down as far as they did, and I didn't think Felix would fall to #22 either, but being able to get a speedy RB that can get it outside, and an outstanding CB (which we really needed) is a much better improvement than another WR. As long as T.O. is a Cowboy, along with Witten at TE,+Crayton, possibly Terry Glenn and an improved running game, the Cowboys are in good shape. I think one of these other recievers is going to step up this year also and make some things happen. --- By the way,does anyone know what Dallas's #92 in the third was traded for? I know we got Detroit's 4th rounder next year out of it, but what else? Looks like it was traded down a gozillion times.

Matt Millen reminds me of that quote "Stupid is as Stupid does"

Matt Millen was probably asking for more than what the Cowboys were willing to offer...Jerry said: "I didn't see anything that should be of interest, Relative to what we would need to make a trade. Did not see a serious one. it might have been serious in their mind but it was BS in mine." Millen was probably asking for the 22nd and 28th pick plus maybe a 3rd. And now that is BS.

football has been around for 100 years and the premiss is still the same. to make one aspect of your game work, the other must be just as strong. remember where garrett came from. he was brought in from the jimmy johnson era. he worked under bill parcells. both old school, smash mouth run first coaches. he's old school minded in his approach. the ground game with a 2 te set is the most power drien approach you can operate. it can also be the most wide open for the middle of the feild passing game. we got owens and witten for that now. another young te in bennett thats 6'6 and plays bball. we have glenn? and 4 other young wrs to drop in there. the focus this year looks to me to go thru barber-owens-witten. but barber and the run game will be first priority. count on it.

hey moon dog, you and i became cowboy fans about the same time. it's great to hear from some of the old timers out there. we've seen alot over the years, but somethings just never change. my opinion on this wr turmoil and passing game is simple. and it dates back to the old days when you just flat out had to run the damn football. well, that to me has'nt changed. i know that jason garrett feels the same way. he knows as an offensive co. that if he wants his high flying pass game to work, he has got to get the opposing D to be concerned with the run. this brings the safeties up more in the box making the corners work man on the wrs and most importantly frees the TE'S across the middle. (thus explaining the importance of that 2nd round bennett pick). this is how our offence works. if you know football and 2 te offence, you'll know you don't need another shit for brains young undeveluped wide out sittin around takin up space. garrett ran this to a T last year and was successful because there is no D that can counter act the options that you throw out there. understand the mindset of our offence before you say that we needed another WR. we did, but not a rookie in the 2ND round. we got basically three of them now. lets let one of them step up. in the mean time let the old fashioned way of pound football work. we did draft 2 good rbs that will make this work.

he probably meant horse shit, but could'nt say that in public. millen is trying to say that nobody came up to bat. that all they did was beat around the bush, and if your serious about a trade, put something soild on the table. if dallas would have laid one of their 1st rounders on the table, i think detroit would have considered it. i don't think jerry did that, because he knew we had to have felix, and a corner like jenkins was going to take a first round pick. he may have laid out the first round pick in 09, but detroit would hesitate on that because dallas could conceivably have the last pick in the first round, making it no more than a 2nd round pick. so if your detroit would you trade him away for that. come on lets give millen a little more credit then that??????