More Evidence Jerry Jones To Trade Up For Darren McFadden?
Warrick Dunn is now off the market, signing today with his old team, the Tampa Bay Bucs. I don’t know folks, but to me this sure seems like more evidence Jerry Jones is planning to do something snazzy in the 2008 Draft, such as trading up for Darren McFadden. Is snazzy even the right word for that move? I guess it all depends on how he plans to do it.
Dunn seemed to fit a need in the Cowboys two-back system. He’s faster than Marion Barber, and he’s less of a beast, and more of a speedy hole hitter. Now, the question is how does Jerry plan to trade up with Miami to select McFadden? I don’t see any other team, maybe other than Atlanta, willing to work with the Cowboys.
As we see in my last post, the salary cap plays a huge role in who the Cowboys can trade away to move up in the draft. My top fear is Jerry Jones will trade away many of the top picks in this draft. Ignoring the problems in the secondary would be the worst move he could make. Not backing up that secondary is a mistake. Anthony Henry has not stayed healthy all year, and Terrence Newman has had his own health problems with his feet.
So, JJ, what is it you are waiting for? The more time that passes, the more it becomes apparent. There isn’t a corner, wide receiver or running back left, is there?
I wonder if Darren does end up being a great RB how long it will take for people that disliked the idea to draft him to buy a jersey. If we do get him Im buying one as soon as one is available.
March 10th, 2008 at 5:39 pmBrutal, it’s HOW we get him. He could be a great back, but it is worthless if the Cowboys don’t win a few Super Bowls.
March 10th, 2008 at 5:44 pmIm fine with however Jerry does it besides trading Barber and if we do end up getting Pacman I just dont see anything stopping Jerry.
March 10th, 2008 at 5:48 pmWe need two running backs (as long as we keep Marion Barber. I do not believe Tyson Thompson is coming back. There will be other free agent RB in the near future. The draft is deep so I am sure some good RB will show up. New Orlean Saints might let go of Arron Stecker or the Giants might let go of Derrick Ward. Tatum Bell just signed with the Lions for one year so he and Warrick Dunn are off the list. We just have to walk away from the draft with one good CB,RB,WR,NT, and maybe a good Safety. That talent can be found in Round 2,3 and 4. If we can get Darren Mcfadden without losing Marion and still able to get my wish list above then great but I am sure that will not be easy.
March 10th, 2008 at 5:58 pmTrading for D-mac would be unwise in my opinion. There are more pressing needs. The secondary needs ALOT help and the draft would be a good place to start. I almost want to say that we should draft 2 CB’s in the 1st RD. WR and RB should be addressed within the first 4 rds but i doubt Jerrah will stay put with the picks.
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March 10th, 2008 at 7:13 pmseriously, what is the requirement for pacman to be reinstated? i believe jerry will definitely pick him up for probably something similar to tank until he proves himself. what will it cost? how high of a draft pick? if he gets pacman, and mcfadden we can use a second and third round pick to get wr and a cb. what do you think?
March 10th, 2008 at 7:15 pmI think grabbing Pac Man cannot hurt. I have no idea what it takes for him to be reinstating other than maybe him stopping the strip club bull shit.
March 10th, 2008 at 7:16 pmIt seems to me that a lot of people are not seeing the point here. Jerry Jones is interested in doing what it takes to win, but at the same he has to sell 80,000 tickets in the new Arlington Stadium also. The stadium is expensive and Jerry needs insurance that all the PSL agreements are sold. I don’t say this to talk bad about Jerry, but it is the truth. Dallas doesn’t need a lot. The biggest weakness is at CB, but don’t look for the Cowboys to address that 1st, especially if Jerry can get Pacman Jones for cheap. THE ONLY WAY that the Cowboys don’t trade up for Darren McFadden is if it is not an affordable option with the cap status on draft day. If that is the case, I believe Dallas will still take a RB 1st and it will be Felix Jones or Chris Johnson with the #22 pick. WR is another position that needs to be addressed, but I believe this will come later in the draft unless Hardy or Thomas are available at #28. WE NEED KEITH DAVIS! If he is not back, we have a bigger problem than the CB issue. What if Roy gets hurt and is out for a play or two? Even more scary, what if he is out for multiple games? As much as everyone cusses Roy, he is all we have if Davis leaves.
March 10th, 2008 at 7:19 pmIm curious I saw on some site I belive it was Darren Mcfadden playing on defense in highschool. If so we can just play him saftey when Roy is hurt also jk.
March 10th, 2008 at 7:31 pmthis is what i personally think will happen. pacman reinstated before draft then signs with dallas. dallas then trades up for mcfadden. arizona cant afford fitzgerald, dallas gives arizona ware, carpenter, and a second round pick for him. oh, a fourth rounder for pacman.
March 10th, 2008 at 7:35 pmHa give Arizona Ware and everyone is worried about our defense now imagine it without Ware.
March 10th, 2008 at 7:38 pmLANDRY HAT, check your email, I’ve got a draft for you I think you will like
March 10th, 2008 at 7:49 pmWARE ISN’T GOING ANYWHERE!!!!
March 10th, 2008 at 7:50 pmWare is the core of this defense and Jerry knows it.
March 10th, 2008 at 7:51 pmNow this is what I think will happen we get Pacman, because Jerry loves helping the community out by taken players that have bad records and making them love being a Cowboy even if the pay is cheap. Then he will Trade up to get D-Mac maybe with Miami as long as it dont take Barber if it does then we might be looking at Alanta again. Then we will draft WR or CB as much as everyone thinks we need a WR I dont see it happening early because it not a now factor and we still have stanback which might start this season with Terry Glenns situation. CornerBacks of course wont be a biggie with PacMan and I think Anthony Henry did good 6 int and was out for most of the season besides being in not a 100%. Newman nothing bad to say about him. I also dont see the defence being anything Wow even if we get Pacman so D-Mac is the only thing fitting in.
March 10th, 2008 at 7:52 pmBrutalRage, I think you are right about the wide reciever situation. No one wants to give Stanbeck, Austin, and Hurd the benefit of the doubt except Jerry Jones. These guys are young and still developing as recievers. Miles Austin in particular has loads of potential, and you hear no one talk about him. The #1 priority(for Jerry) is getting that impact player on offense and another RB is a must. The rest of the draft can go to the secondary. This wide reciever situation isn’t as bad as everyone lets on, but there are some great ones in this draft that should not be overlooked. And Jerry can afford to use the draft from the second round on to draft for the secondary.
March 10th, 2008 at 8:06 pmIf we dont get D-Mac I think Jerry should shoot for Chris Johnson Im just not impressed by Felix Jones enough.
March 10th, 2008 at 8:08 pmAnd Jerry will get Pacman, if he can get him for cheap. But first the NFL has to re-instate him.
March 10th, 2008 at 8:08 pmPacman would ge re-instated if he would get of his ass and do something to atleast feel some warm place in peoples heart like some type of charity maybe I dont know atleast do something than sit on your ass.
March 10th, 2008 at 8:11 pmAs for Austin I think he can be a good WR its just everytime he get a chance on the field something happens that ruins it. Like the past interference calls he is fast and flys by. Also there was one where he was open to keep running and get a touchdown but I belive Romo either over threw him or just didnt see him.
March 10th, 2008 at 8:20 pmScott are you high? give Ware away? wow thats gotta be the dumbest thing i have ever heard in my whole entire life
March 10th, 2008 at 8:25 pmCheck out wikipedia — Pacman Jones. —IN PARTICULAR,read under the 2008 section of this. He and his agent feel pretty confident about a trade evidently. And it firstly mentions Dallas. COULD happen. We will see soon enough.
March 10th, 2008 at 8:41 pmI was just looking at the Dallas Cowboys website blog and I want to just smack so of the idiots on there. Seriously the way some of the bloggers talk on there its like they have their hand in Jerrys wallet. Im tired of hearing we can’t afford D-Mac if half of them were smart about money like Jerry then maybe they would be billionaires. If Jerry wants D-Mac bad enough then he will find a way to get more money in the cap. I mean everytime the idea of D-Mac coming to Dallas it never fails with someone talking about the price.
March 10th, 2008 at 8:46 pmMore evidence that JJ is interested in Pac Man. http://kissmesuzy.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-do-not-feel-comfortable-in-confines.html
March 10th, 2008 at 9:46 pmScott are u secretly woking undercover for the Deadskins??
March 10th, 2008 at 9:46 pmOkay, if you’re quoting Wikipedia as a source that’s bad. If you’re pointing at Wikipedia as a source to indicate what a player’s Agent claims is likely, you might as well make up your facts since it’s going to be just as reliable. Nothing personal but Agents tend to be overly optimistic of their players and they’re paid to do spin control.
March 10th, 2008 at 9:49 pmHello fellow Cowboys fans. I’ve been reading on here since McFadden’s name was first brought up, and I became very anxious on the subject. After thinking about everything lately though I’ve come to a pretty simple conclusion. There is less than a 1% chance of Jerry Jones messing up this offseason. Cowboys were 13-3 last season and are only going to improve. This years draft fits our needs perfectly. The reason we didn’t acquire Dunn is because we don’t want Dunn. Felix Jones or any other RB that will be there for us in late first round or second round will be better than Dunn. Pacman will probably be a Cowboy next year, but there’s no telling if he’ll actually make an impact. If not, Roy Williams WILL be his old self again under Campo. Remember when he was the franchise player on the cover of the programs before the Romo and T.O. era began? He has just been misutilized. If they work out a trade with the Falcons then it might or might not include DeAngelo Hall. He will be pricey. Not in personnel, but as in towards the cap. In Scott’s previous post, I think he meant Spears, not Ware, because steamroller stated Ware IS NOT going anywhere. Currently he is the best player on our defense. So, that is if everything pretty much stays the same. If we do go after McFadden, it will include dispensable players and a series of draft picks, but not Barber. If Jerry wanted to deal with Miami including Barber, then he would have placed a high tender and not a premium tender on Barber making him too costly. Barber is my FAVORITE Cowboys player, but if anyone is willing to deal for him and in return we receive a 1st and 3rd for him, then we’d actually be in even better shape as we would have THREE 1st rounders, a 2nd rounder, and 2 thrid rounders. You could guarantee McFadden being a Cowboy AND we could still address the secondary/WR issues.In conclusion, no matter what Jerry Jones does, the Cowboys will be a better team than they were last year at 13-3, unless he absolutely loses it and the less than 1% chance happens, and he incredibly overreacts, and I can assure you that you don’t become a multi-billionaire owner of America’s team by completely screwing up everything possible. Just remember this. As much as all of us on here (besides Redskins Guy) want the Cowboys to win a Superbowl, Jerry Jones wants to win one 100x more than all of us combined and he’s not going to mess it up.
March 10th, 2008 at 10:49 pmHey, redskins guy. I am only quoting it as a source because it is interesting to me that they would include it there this fast. Wikepedia does have a lot of past FACTUAL info on Pacman Jones though also.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:28 amHonestly I doubt a trade would happen unless the Cowboys create more cap room. As of last Thursday the ‘Boys only have 3.9 million of available cap room space. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ArkRog9r7FaKcBtR37S.vr1DubYF?slug=jc-underthecap031008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns If im correct you need anywhere between 2 to 3 milion to sign your draft picks not to mention we have 2 first rounders…
March 11th, 2008 at 6:17 amFirst of all if DeMarcus Ware is traded from the Cowboys I will go into a rage a million times worse than I would have if Barber was let go… we cannot lose Ware, I want him to retire a Cowboy…….. If Pacman gets reinstated, I think its pretty likely that the Cowboys will grab him and then definately go for D-Mac… Hall will require too much money (as someone said on here before also), and Pacman cant exactly demand top dollar because of all hes done, so we can probably get him for cheap and then give him some sort of get your act together incentive crap…. then maybe we can just trade our 2 first rounders and a player or two to the Falcons for D-Mac, and get a WR in the 2nd round…………and as for Roy Williams, I like him and hate him, I am a Sooners fan, and I was so happy when he got drafted from my favorite college team to my favorite NFL team, he has the capability to be great, this year i wanted to beat him, i couldnt even wear my roy williams shirt, its been in my drawer all year, but i hope i can wear it proudly this year……. after this tackle rule made pretty much just against him i think he just lost confidence, hopefully this year he comes out with a chip on his shoulder and just plays nasty….. I think one playmaker in the secondary is all we need to kind of inspire the rest to all play well….. and Dmac would be a good addition, because then we can have him and Barber on at the same time, Dmac is versatile, granted he cant break tackles or run through guys, but he is nasty fast, and can be a slot receiver and he can throw the ball, and we can have really fun plays on offense because we can keep so many playmakers on the field at the same time…… if this all happens, I also think in the 3rd round, if still available, we should grab a RB like Hart or Ray Rice, they will probably be gone by then, but at the same time the class is deep, and those are guys who dont jump out at the combine but will be good in the NFL so may still be around in the 3rd round (this is just incase Barber isnt around in the 09′ season)
March 11th, 2008 at 6:42 amthis cap thing is stupid by the way, its not that hard to manipulate the salary cap in the NFL, i mean the deadskins were 21 million under and then miraculously werent, you can always restructure contracts and manipulate the cap, you cant just buy up and overpay tons of players (a la snyder) but you can definately work around it, so the whole cant afford him argument doesnt really hold water…. plus if you sign really long year contracts even knowing the player wont be there for 8 or 9 or 10 years its so the money is pro-rated and 20 million bonus is just 2 mil against the cap, and the bonuses and incentives can be applied for the year after…. if JJ wants Dmac its definately do-able
March 11th, 2008 at 6:51 amGuys,WE ARE NOT TRADING FOR MCFADDEN GET IT OUT OF EVERYONES HEADS…..
March 11th, 2008 at 6:59 amWhat makes you so sure? Listen, your talking about JERRY JONES, the man himself. The greatest owner in the history of sports. It’s time we get a running back. He knows what RunDMC will bring to the Cowboys. Jerry wants that running game we had when Emmitt Smith was with us. Make the trade for RunDMC and trade your 5th round pick for Pacman and we’ll be all set. Draft another WR or CB in the second.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:17 amJohn A I agree with your post about Jerry wanting the best RB, but I dont belive D-Mac cant run through someone there is a video on youtube cant recall what it is called, but D-Mac is running up the middle and one guy stands about 4 yard from the 1st down. He then drops his shoulder knocking the guy back then the guys buddy comes and tries to help and D-Mac runs through him I think D-Mac can be special just need better coach. Also I belive it was his coach not for sure that said D-Mac was injured I guess on his foot. That they did not have him doing any kind of leg exercises during the season another reason his legs look weak. So I think if we do get D-Mac the legs wont be a problem. Also maybe he rarely runs over people do to him flying by them.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:05 amIf anything happens on the McFadden front it will happen on draft day. The Cowboys might move up to the number 4 pick but I don’t expect them to move up to the #1 pick. They will opt to let the picks fall and if McFadden is still there at #4 then they might move, if not then they stay put or try to trade down. If Jerry listens to Wade Phillips at all, which I doubt, he would never trade DeMarcus Ware for (WR) Larry Fitzgerald. I would love to have Fitzgerald but not at the expense of the defense. Defense wins Championships and if you don’t believe me, ask the New England Patriots. Keeping with this theme, the Cowboys don’t need McFadden, they need help in the defensive secondary. I would prefer a 1st round CB like CROMARTIE or JENKINs over PacMan. I don’t remember PACMAN being much more than a return guy. He is small and likely to get dominated by larger WRs.. I could be wrong there I just don’t remember Pacman doing much other than returning kicks.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:20 amCowboycards – Finally, someone I agree with. However, i do think Pacman will a bigger help than a Cromartie or Jenkins. Pacman was a dominant CB in the league , as much as a KR/PR. Remember he took on some of the league’s best in the AFC. NFC recievers are not as strong.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:27 amI think Pacman will be good, i mean he already was a really strong CB, and hes clearly extremely hungry to get back to playing football, I think he wants to go out and put on a show (on the field)….Pacman had 4 int’s 130 yds and a TD as a corner, plus had 440 yds and 3 TD’s returning, all in 2006…the guy is good, and will look even better in the NFC, I see those stats bulking up some…..and BrutalRage I agree with you to an extent, I think I know the clip you mentioned as well, but I have seen many more of him not getting through tackles…. the thing is I dont care about that as long as we have Barber, D-Mac and him would be a good tandem, I just didnt want D-Mac and no Barber because that would be retarted…and yea you can always beef up the legs I guess… and Ive been saying for months about how much I like McKelvin and Cromartie, unfortunately we wont get them, even if we dont trade up, McKelvin will be bye bye and Cromartie is likely to be as well…. Jenkins is a possibility though… the only reason I like this Pacman thing is because we can probably get him at a good price, which would allow us to pursue mcfadden and address a WR in the 2nd, the only WR I really like are Sweed and Desean Jackson who will probably both be gone before pick 22, so just try and land pacman, and then have Tony Romo quarterbacking an offense that can see Witten, D-Mac, Barber and T.O. all on the field at the same time…. thats pretty fricken scary if you ask me
March 11th, 2008 at 9:19 amThis being a pass first team what do you think we will be with D-Mac because our run will be great also. I think its perfect to have D-Mac here when Jason Garrett is here because he is real creative with his play calling.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:15 amAdan,We have a 13-3 team that is on the verge of winning it all. They need only a couple players yo put them over the top in a quality CB and RB to spell Barber. A dominant defense will always slow down a great offense, see exhibit A New York Giants. So instead of filling our needs which are minor, many people want to trade and give the world up for an unproven Dmac. It makes no sense. Lets use the #22 pick and get the best CB or RB available depending on value and use the #28 for what ever we did not get. Then use the 2nd round pick and draft a good Wr. Or if a Stud WR is available draft him and get an RB in the 2nd round since the RB class is deeper. So unless Dmac can cover WR’s in the secondary I suggest we forget about him.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:16 amNo worries Steamroller. It’s interesting, just as long as people don’t take it as gosphel. Agents are paid to be slimy, lying weasels so just because he says or indicates he thinks his employer can do something doesn’t make it so. How can you tell when an agent is lying? He’s moving his mouth.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:53 amOk maybe Im wrong, but I think our defense was not all that bad. I also dont understand how everyone tries to say defenses wins games. We gave up 325 points a game during the regular season average per game is about 20 points. The Giants gave up 348 points during the regular season averaging around 22 points a game. New England gave up 274 points during the regular season averaging only around 17 points a game. During the last two playoff games and the SuperBowl New England gave up 46 points averaging around 15 points a game. Giants gave up 51 points averaging 17 points. Defenses win games then why didnt New England win the SuperBowl. New England Defense had a great year but they needed their offence to score in the SuperBowl. The truth is Dallas could have been there the way the defense is now, but the Giants came with their game face come game time and Dallas didnt this is the part where rookies need some experience and now they have it.
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March 11th, 2008 at 11:24 amyea but BrutalRage you cant just say that by looking at those stats…. plus the Patriots statistics are a joke, they play in the easiest conference known to God, LSU probably could have beaten the Dolphins this year…so you have 6 games for the Pats to look good on both offensively and defensively…then they play an easy ass schedule to begin with, and next year forget about it, I think theyre going 15-1 or 14-2, with their losses coming from either Indy and Jets (14-2) or Indy or Jets (15-1)… i mean you need to have both, and i agree with you, i think our defense wasnt horrendous, but it needs some tweaking, and i think one big playmaker in the secondary will do it……. Honestly i hate on roy williams so much sometimes but i really do like him, he definately wasnt utilized properly, hes a great athlete and this year there was no excuse, hes not a bad football player, the coaches need to figure out how to make him shine because hes perfectly capable of being a playmaking safety, and hes gigantic- i just feel like all we need is a playmaker on defense and a new toy on offense, this team doesnt need an overhaul…………………….and David, there arent any stud receivers, the few good ones will go before pick 22, and quite frankly i dont like Talib, i dont like the way he moves, it looks awkward like hes going to hurt himself, if we can snag pacman jones, we should move up for Dmac…. hes definately unproven and i would object completely to him being the go-to RB, but we have Barber…Dmac is an amazing athlete and a toy, i would kill to be Garrett if that scenario pans out- can you imagine how much fun it would be to design plays where Romo is your QB and you have Dmac Barber T.O. and Witten on the field at the same time?!? Dmac went 14-22, over 200yds and threw 7 TD’s at Arkansas, he also had receiving TD’s…I said it before, Dmac I think is more like Reggie Bush than Adrian Peterson, but i never thought Bush was a #1 RB, he is a toy you need to use as a change up and design flashy cool plays around, Dmac can be used in a whole number of ways as long as we still have barber…. if Pacmans reinstated and we can get him I am all for this trade up for dmac because Pacman has already proved himself and hes young and is a defensive playmaker
March 11th, 2008 at 11:54 amSo John your going to pay out the ass for a role player like Reggie Bush. Thats a total waste of money and draft picks we would be giving up. If your giving up that much money and draft picks you better be getting an Adrian Peterson.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:04 pmOk so this is why I wouldnt even think about getting Pacman Jones….not even for a second. According to Jean-Jacques Taylor (Cowboys beat writer for the Dallas morning news) there are……44 strip clubs in dallas14 in forth worth8 in ArlingtonTo make things worse….he could Fly to houston on his day off and visit another 45 strip joints…14 in austin and…20 in San Antonio (oh yes…San Antonio, where the Cowboys hold training camp)A Strip Joint…..Thats where this retard seems to get in trouble right??? too much temptation. Now I can see why he is so eagered to come to dallas. In all I counted 125 places for jones to get into trouble. Jerry Jones I hope your reading this….
March 11th, 2008 at 12:23 pmnot necessarily david, what i was trying to say was that reggie bush isnt a bust, i dont think, i just think he is a type of player you need to work around to make shine… dmac i think is like that, adrian peterson is my favorite RB of late even though hes a viking because he was a sooner, but he is an every down back, he can do it all and hes a beast, hes the shit, and they only come one in a million…. but dmac is an amazing athlete and can be incredibly successful for Dallas if played in properly, i was against him if it meant giving up Barber, but if we can keep both I think it would be amazing……and if were only giving up a few expendable players and the 2 draft picks big deal (because i said i would only be in favor of this if we got a CB like pacman or if hall was worked into a trade up with the falcons- if we dont acquire a CB outside the draft, i dont support the trade up AT ALL) ………..and as for strip clubs, its not that which is getting pacman into trouble, its the people he surrounds himself with, you see it happen with a lot of atheletes… if Pacman is under a contract laden with incentives to deter him from getting into trouble, i think the money will trump the strip clubs and the trouble…… plus the guy is young, we all make mistakes, hopefully hes learned his lesson(s) and deserves at least a shot, hes a great player
March 11th, 2008 at 1:43 pmJohn,Now I am starting to agree with you since you made it clearer that a Top CB like Hall or Pacman would have to land here before thinking of Dmac. Now I can agree with you. I still think you shouldnt spend money like that on a part time player. However I do think Garrett would be able to use him in the slot and in 2 back sets with Barber. That would be fun.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:56 pmguys that was an accident mentioning wear. after i sent it i realized that i ment to write spears. sorry about the confusion.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:56 pmyea no david i definately wouldnt want dmac without having the CB issue addressed…… and yea it would just make our offense so difficult because there are only so many players you can double team, and if theres 4 guys that can make plays it just makes even the best defenses want to tear the hair out of their head…. but we cant ignore our own defense, however i dont think it was that bad, like i said we just need one playmaker and at the corner position so yea if we get the cb issue under wraps then i really think the team is crazy solid and in the position to just go out and have a grand ol time at the draft… if JJ plays his cards right, the Cowboys can be so good next year itl almost be unfair
March 11th, 2008 at 2:59 pm