The Julius Jones Factor

Yeah Adan all we can do is guess whats gonna happen, I think they should keep the picks and get DR-C and eiher a RB or WR but who knows were talking about Jerrah here....

if we keep our picks, i would kove mckelvin, but he'll be gone by 22. i think cormartie is the guy. great speed, good hands and FEET, and his height with his arm length. looks like a spider playing corner. love him too.

number_9 your absolutely correct in what you said, but it would also be the perfect scenario. 1st - We all know Jerry Jones has a thing signing players with character issues and fixing them.(TO, Tank Johnson, Antonio Bryant, etc) 2nd - Pacman wants to play in Dallas, so did TO and look how it changed his character. The guy is now a modern day saint(somewhat) 3rd - Our seconday was our biggest cancer towards the second half of the season and the playoffs, we need depth as well. 4th - Punt/Kick Returner, we need a Devin Hester or Joshua Cribbs type special teams playmaker on the Cowboys. Special Teams plays a huge role, more now than ever in a game. 4th - We can get him for almost nothing. In my opinion he's really worth a 3rd round pick. It would surprise me to see Jerry Jones make an offer for Pacman. I also agree with you on the Deangelo Hall issue, that will not work out at all, the only reason being that TO is on the team, unless TO can make some type of public apology for what happened, but I think 2 years is also too late for that. Thanks for your response. 

Hey Adan why would you want to trade for someone who hasnt played in over a year and and who has very serious character flaws??...seriously that guy is retarded. he just doesnt get it. I would also hate to trade for a locker room cancer like Deangelo Hall. I wouldnt mess with the team chemistry not to mention the salary cap.

  The likelyhood of Cromartie being drafted in the first round is good, but there are 5 CB's given the highest 5 star rating on Scout.com. They are as follows, Mike Jenkins(South Florida),Aquib Talib(Kansas),Leodis Mckelvin(Troy),Terrell Thomas(USC), then lastly Cromartie who has the 28th overall rank in the draft. There is a lot of depth in this position. If Dallas does trade up with Atlanta it would be likely that they,(Atlanta) draft a CB with at least 1 of those picks. New Orleans has been speculated that their 1st pick will be a CB( I dont believe they will). Also Tampa Bay may take one in the   1st and surely the New York Giants will. New England could, but many believe Gholston is their target. I think 4 teams will take DB's, possibly 5 in the first round. That is O.K. there is a lot of depth at this position and teams are not just going to stack up on them only in the first 2 rounds. Although, I think Dallas will use their second rounder on a corner if Jerry trades up. Brandon Flowers would be a good pick up for Dallas, and would be an interesting choice if we get DeAngelo Hall also since they are both Hokies.

If I were Jerry, these would be my actions:Make a Trade with the Atlanta Falcons: 22nd pick, 28th pick, and Marcus Spears for their number 3 pick in the draft and 68th pick.Make a Trade with Tennessee Titans: Trade our 68th pick for Pacman Jones. At this point the Titans would take it. Look at what the Raiders got for Randy Moss. Cowboys would then have: Darren McFadden, Pacman Jones, 2nd, and 3rd round pick +

So a friend of mine told that Pacman Jones wants to play for Dallas....I say Hell No. what do you all think??

Doesn't alot of teams need CB this year what the chances of DR-C being available to us. I dont know im not to update with the CB draft I just figure there won't be a great one available to us, and if we do get Pacman or DeAngelo then we wont need a great one in draft so one again why not shoot for D-Mac it covers your WR,RB,QB picks maybe even our PR, KR guy also. Then get a backup CB in the 2nd round. Also everyone says go for back in the later rounds, Maybe Im wrong but most backs were running 4.4 or higher besides people like Chris Johnson, Mcfadden, or Jamal Charles. Marion Barber was recorded to running around 4.48 and 4.53 seconds why get a back thats close to his speed.

Sorry guys I'll still keep saying NO to a McFadden trade. Lets just stay with our picks and see what happens. DR-C and Felix jones in the 1st rd.

Good point but can we get him to like T.O. Damn doesnt that suck at one point he was just pissed off and spits in his face. Then now there is a chance of him coming here but your actions of the past might stop it.

we are not looking to draft a workhorse running back in the draft. we have one in barber already. yes there may be some higher rated backs in the draft, but that's not what we're looking for. i agree with STM78 100%. the more explosive weapons you put on the field the less of them you can double cover. so with mcfadd on the field, with barber, owens, witten; hell i could be the #2 wideout over there and still look good. crayton or one of those young guys will be fine in that role. an injury to owens would be the only thing now that would hurt, but how do you ever prepare for that. drafted wrs are not the answer here. to try and trade up to get mcfadd is an offensive stroke of genious, we need playmakers to rock thier defences. we can add depth at corner in the 2nd round of the draft or by landing hall in a trade. hall is a punkass be cause he's used to losing. being on a winning team full of tradition puts a new status on you, and suddenly a teams not living up to your talent, but you as a player must live up to IT"S standard. that's what would happen to hall if he came here. it did to deion, itdid to haley, it did to owens. those guys all new what it was to win before they got here, but when they did get here, the AURA about being a dallas cowboy was huge. it's like putting on yankee pinstripe. you're playin and expected to play at a higher level. we got 5 championships, the nfl's leading rusher, countless numbers of greatplayers of our past to look up to. a higher standard to say it best. and don't scoff at that, because to a player that wants a ring, and have some fame in thier career, knows he can have that in dallas. that alone is enough to make them come here to suceed. think i'm blowin smoke??? then why is it that every freeagent thinks dallas as a possibility????? they want it!!!!! and if hall gets it his punkass will be a mature vet, and suddenly he will look at the dallas cowboys as his chance at immortality, and most importantly, HE'LL PLAY

Dont know if this rumor is true but their is word that Jerry might be looking into trading for Pacman Jones. Some people think it is a bad idea, but people also thought T.O. was a bad idea and Tank was a bad idea. What are your thoughts on this? I think we should go for it and also try to get him on a great deal like Tank then he wont be able to afford to hand money out a the strip clubs.

I vote against any trade revolving D-Mac Period. I think some you might have seem me post on here why I oppose a trade to get D-mac. Its all about the salary cap. I would cost way too much to get him and there is not much cap room to begin with and trading players who are currently on the roster would just make things worse. I seriously doubt Julius Jones will be a starter again in the NFL but who knows....as long as its not with Dallas then Im cool. If I were Jerrah I would sign MBIII to a long term deal and draft Rogers-Cromartie with the 22nd pick and either get Felix Jones or Mario Maningham or Early Doucet thats if they are available with the 28th pick. Get another conner if possible in the 2nd round, You can never have enough good conners. Thats whats up y'all...

I don't share your thoughts on Julius Jones. Presonally, I would not mind him staying put and being a backup to Marion Barber.

Comparing JJ to Barber just isn't fair. They are 2 different types of runners. JJ relys on a bigger gap to run through than Barber but is a bigger threat to break a big one. The reason we didn't see any big ones this year is because Barber was the horse in the 2nd half when the defense was worn down. I truly believe that if there was no Barber, JJ would have had a decent if not great 1200 plus yard season.

JJ hasn't gotten worse since his rookie season, his role has just changed for the better of the team. I don't think he is better than Barber but he aint no bum either.

IMO, if JJ goes to a team and becomes the feature back and gets 25 plus carries a game, I believe he will be an elite back with 1200-1500 yards.

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If I were Jerry I would trade up for Mcfadden as long as it dont take Barber, Cause the fans are going to pissed. Also even if the fans dont like his choice you could always say that they didnt like the idea of T.O. at first either now they love him. Its a gamble either way trade Barber and take the chance at having the best RB(which also includes QB,WR). Or dont trade and take the chance at regreting it cause he turns out what you expected. So if Jerry does trade with falcons and get Deangelo and keeps Barber that would be great. Is their a possibility the Dolphins would still trade for something else besides Barber then we could grab Pacman at a low cost maybe.

 THE question is what would you do if you were Jerry in the upcoming draft?

  The Landry Hat, could you put up a vote or poll like you did for Marion Barber that goes something like this. Pacman Jones and Mike Jenkins(let D Mac go trade up to New England)-----------or DeAngelo Hall and Brandon Flowers(both are VT guys by the way and Flowers will most likely be there for the Dallas 2nd round pick leaving wide open confidence in trding up for Darren McFadden)-------------take a RB in the second round and just use the 2 first rounders for the best available CBs----------or trade Marion Barber to Bill Parcells with Marcus Spears and the 2 1st round picks for security D Mac is worth it

I dont even know if we would be able to get Deangelo to want to come here after T.O. spit in his face.

   So hopefully Dallas can throw him an offer if no other team is interested. Anyway, I just read a post on the Gryphon by a Washington reporter that Pac Man wants badly to play for the Cowboys. It would be awesome if Jerry's staff could bring him aboard and maybe on a deal like Tank got at that. I don't know how he would play back there with DeAngelo Hall, but he could be a better investment for Jerry than DeAngelo Hall. Landry Hat, are you catching all this?

You would think he would try to keep do to how our special teams looked without him when he was injured. The only problem is he wants a starting job a SS which Roy still haves and we dont know if he will be all that great to even be better than Roy right now.

 I hope though that Jerry can get Keith Davis back here in Dallas. Has anyone heard anything about him having meetings with teams. I hope Jerry can fit him in the budget to keep him here. He is a big part of our special teams as well as good depth on the defensive side of the ball.

 And crap guys with all this speculation that Jerry is going to have a big surprise on offense, he could be using that as a decoy to do something else. Either way I trust that he will do what is best for us to be better in 08. And if he trades up early to someone like New Engand at #7 to rob them of Mike Jenkins I would be laughing my ass off of the genious behind that because we would have just got the best CB in the draft and New England would have known they screwed up in letting Samuel go to the Eagles. Whatever happens Dallas will be better in 08 than last year. Maybe we don't go 13-3 again, but we are about to kick the damn door in.

 Tank is a badass. He will be as good for us as he was for the Bears. He just needs a coach that will use him for all his talent. By the way what do you all think about this overhauled coaching staff, Campo,Maxxie etc.

  Hey Mike, lets say for a moment, that Jerry doesn't have the cap space for a high first rounder. If we say that,then we might as well say he can't afford the two first round picks we already have. Jerry can make more cap space between now and draft time. We just hope it doesn't include Barber in doin that. If Jerry doesn't take D Mac who at corner and who at RB will be around at the #28 and #22 pick. And Dallas could also trade with Miami for their # 33 in the second if Jerry thinks all the corners are slipping out from under him. For that matter he could trade with Atlanta to have their second rounder too since we would already be throwing them one hell of a deal. Two first rounders plus trimming the fat and giving them players that could make them improve this year plus not to mention that at the same time we by trading those players helps us with the cap.

next year of course

Does anyone like Tank Johnson I think he could be real good on our team so maybe we will sign him again.

I think they have his fight on youtube if you want to see it.

I vote AGAINST McFadden... i agree he's an unbelieveable player, a great athlete and blah blah blah..... All I keep seeing is the game against the Giants where Dallas marched down the field and ate up the clock and because we couldnt stop anyone Eli responded with a TD faster than you could get up and get another beer. Happy trails to D-Mac. I'd rather have a lock down CB and help for D-Ware or another WR.... a 2 RB system isn't the only offense... shit if you want the two step take Dunn or someone...

I belive they said something about him fighting Mark Coleman.

Speaking of Lesnar, I haven't seen him yet, have they said when he will go again. I am not paying 40 or 50 dollars to see him pay per view.

I want to Brock again its a shame he lost the way he did.

The Cowboys don't have the cap space to sign an early first round pick. So, even if Jerry is crazy enough to move up to get McFadden, he can't. Given the moves in free agency, I think we'll see a CB and an RB in the first round, both of whom will see big playing time in their rookie seasons (I hope). Jerry's just blathering.

I dont see what our CB problem is right now, what are we looking for just someone to backup cause Newman and Henry are both good and going to be hard to replace so you keep both draft picks then what get a 22 pick for a CB that might not even meet you expectations. Henry was injured at the start of the season he had 4 interceptions before that. Even when we had Newman he wasnt at 100%. When Henry came back he wasnt at a 100%. This defence probaly would have been better if they were. 

   Yea, you might really like the Ranch Report blogs. There are a lot of people interested in UFC now. I watch fromm time to time,but I have a 3 year old son who thinks he is Brock Lesnar already, so I try not to envoke  him.

Just football and maybe some UFC starting to get into that lately. That and waiting on GTA Four to come out offseason sucks.

  SO, BrutalRage, whats on your mind, hockey,baseball, the MAVS maybe? It looks like everybody is tired of talking Cowboys tonight here the past couple of hours.

   The Cowboys fan blog log-in registration process does't make any sense to me because they only supposedly make it this way to keep foul mouthed blogs and comments off the site, but they don't enforce it. For proof read the stuff there about the 2009 PSL's and everyone on there is cussing about Jerry and the prices even though they haven't been released yet for most of us.

So thelandryhat maybe if you get that deal with CBS you can get one of those sections for us started just an idea the site still is good the way it is.

   If  you like the off topic stuff ,the Ranch Report has a lot of off topic and other stuff like that also. It's not a free site though like this one so a lot of people are scared to say things that are really true like the Skins suck and cussing about someones crappy gameplay. They have a lot of warnings too like don't copy and paste this article or you will be prosecuted for copyright infringement and stuff like that.

Speaking of the blogs on the Dallas site, I have registered 3 times trying to join it and get nothing letting me join accept an email that says im being opted and will be looked into before letting join. Why is this? Im glad I found this site now its been so much Better. I wish this site could have like a seperate section for just bullshiting about other topics though like the cowboys site.

   I know the blogs on this site are scaring the hell out of the Skins fans. They know the Boys are back in full force in 08. THIS SITE IS AT THE TOP OF MY FAVORITES LIST. Even the fan blogs on the official Dallas Cowboys site are no match to this one.

if he gets him sorry got ahead of myself 

The play calling that Jason Garrett will try with D-mac is going to be crazy.

   You can't, he takes care of your only offensive need so Jerry can use the rest of his picks in the draft for corners. 

He had my vote when rumors came up saying Jerry was interested then seeing him on you tube. QB,RB,WR all in one pick and who knows what else he can do but wasnt he also KR or PR. If so how can you go wrong with him.

DARREN MCFADDEN + MARION BARBER= THE NEW TEXAS TWO STEP 

DO I HAVE YOUR VOTE YET? DARREN MCFADDEN 2008

   By the way, I don't know how much you guys know about McFadden, but he was a QB in highschool and even threw for multiple touchdown passes in college. He has great speed and good hands. He has talked with Jerry a lot I am sure guys and he possibly could take the place of a slot reciever in many situations, therefore leaving himself, T.O. and Barber on the field. With D Mac and T.O. going downfield together is scary to defenses you guys. And you can't double team both of them because you still have Witten and Barber to contend with. This increases game speed,opens up the run for Barber and is a lot easier on this great offensive front Dallas has. By the way Stanback was also a QB. Three good arms on the same side of the playing field could make for some good trickery on the part of Jason Garrett. If Stanbeck can stay healthy he has the potential to be pretty damn good too yall so don't count him out. Lets just hope he can stay healthy and not be like Tyson Thompson was for the club.

  Landry Hat, on this post you discuss Marion Barbers collapse in the second half of the divisional playoff game with the Giants and I can tell you from experience as an offensive lineman that Marion Barber didn't have a lot to do with the fact that he wasn't productive in the second half of that game. The Dallas line has been used to doing so much pass blocking during the year that they just became overwhelmed and exhausted in this game when Garrett all of the sudden for the first game since he has been with Dallas decided to run the ball on every possible opportunity. That is very hard on an offensive lineman especially when you are faced with one of the if not the best defensive front out there. I mean lets just go ahead and say it as much as I hate to Osi and Strahan are bad ass and very physical. Marion Barber is more of one. I hope the new offensive line coach wants to win the big game as much as T.O. does and he can have this line ready to play every game. Sparano is the biggest reason Dallas didn't go all the way this year guys. He was thinking $$$ and trying to get back under fat asses desk in Miami. And I think we have a very good and very coachable line so this will not be a repeat problem as long as the coaches prepare them appropriatly.