NFL Network reported during the combines today that the Miami Dolphins and Dallas Cowboys are discussing a trade for the top pick. It was reported Dallas is considering trading Marion Barber and three picks for that top pick, which is going to be for Darren McFadden.
McFadden’s stock went through the roof today after he ran a 40 sprint time of 4.27, the fastest of the combines.
If this trade happens, there will be a horde of Cowboys fans that will go berserk. I am one of them. This trade really makes no sense because any dumb bell could see that the Cowboys need a ton of help in the secondary. That is the team’s most-pressing need. How the Cowboys address it is going to be incredibly huge for the future success of this football team. Seeking solutions in later rounds isn’t going to cut it. We cannot play a game of craps shoots with the secondary anymore!
Then, there is an aging wide receiver corps. Miles Austin and Sam Hurd aren’t going to be stars in this league. The Cowboys need to find a replacement for Terry Glenn and Terrell Owens.
Marshal Faulk and Rich Eisen couldn’t stop talking about Jerry Jones and the Cowboys giving the Arkansas running back such a strong look. Reportedly, Jones left after McFadden ran the 4.27.
For the life of me I cannot figure out why the Cowboys are even considering this trade. The biggest problem I have with McFadden is he is top heavy. He’s got chicken legs. I could tackle him by his chicken legs.
Then you look at a running back like Jonathan Stewart’s lower body and his 230-pound frame. You wonder how the heck he ran a 4.44. I wouldn’t want to be in front of J.S. at full speed.
I will keep an eye on this development, but I knew the tardiness of signing Barber is a signal of bad news. And remember, you heard it here first.
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So what do we need more a wide reciever or a secondary?
Dan,
JJ is an Arkansas boy. He’s had it bad for McFadden for a while now.
He’s also a rich boy that is used to getting whatever he wants, no matter the cost.
I just hope his ego doesn’t cost the team Super Bowls (like it did following SBXXVII when he and the other JJ parted ways). I’m still sort of pissed off that the Cowboys didn’t win 4 in a row, which they certainly would have if JJ and JJ could have gotten along and played nice with each other.
Guys,I honestly think Jones is doing parcells and the Finns a favor by going along with this hype. They are just driving the hype for them so others that are closer and can make the deal might try. I cant believe Jones is that big of an idiot to make that deal. It makes no sense on any level. I do believe early in the year when Jones was talking about Dmac and wanting to draft him was when he thought he would have a top 5 pick from Cleveland. Now he dosent but peoples speculation due to his earlier comments still live on. Jones has already stated Barber is not going anywhere.
Robert,
We have two #1 picks. I say get one of each and then pick up a RB in the second or third round.
Robert,I think we address the corner need in the draft and there should be a high quality one there for us at 22. I would get a WR in free agency. I would like Berrian if he was for the right price.
Robert,I then say we draft a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round and can still get a good one.
Hope you’re right, David.
Sadly, JJ’s history might be working against him, at least perceptually. Although I saw the hiring of Parcells as a step towards a changed attitude by JJ, I can’t help but remember all the times in the past when ego came before common sense.
So what do u say? Keep Barber or trade up?
Robert,Seriously, why would you trade a pro bowl punishing back who could wear down defenses at the end of the games and trade him for an unproven albeit talented back who will need a back like Barber to thrive because he will not be able to handle 25-30 carries a game nor would you want him too. And then have to trade the world for him to do it. Please help me understand because I just can not see it.
Nebuloso, What do you think about Roy Williams?
Nebuloso,The WR or our DB?
Roy Williams (WR):
Personally, I wouldn’t want him on the team. Too much baggage there. I kind of like the Berrian idea – providing he could be signed to a reasonable contract.
Roy Williams (DB):
Roy was never known as a cover safety. His claim to fame was the bone-crushing hits he delivers (well, and the horse-collar tackle, but we won’t get into that!). I think that Roy had an off-year last year and that he started reading all the negative stuff being written about him. It also can’t do much good to your self-esteem when your boss (the NFL) makes it a point to single out what a shmuck you are and makes a rule aimed directly at you.
In short, I think he simply lost his confidence. Because of this, he was more hesitant. He was thinking too damn much! In a position like a DB where you have to rely on instincts and reaction, even a split second delay can be the difference between getting burned or making the play.
I say, give Roy one more year to get back to being the player he was 2-3 years ago. If we’re still having this conversation a year from now, then it might be time to start thinking about moving in another direction.
Nebuloso,Yeah Berrian and Williams had almost identical numbers and Berrian played on a offense and QB’s that sucked something bad. Imagine with his speed how he could stretch the field for T.O. and Witten. If he could be had at a reasonable long term contract I say jump on it. Williams contract is up after next year and will command way more money because of his draft status. I then still say draft a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round to bring along slowley for when T.O. departs.As for our beloved Roy. I honestly think people are way to hard on the guy. You dont go to that many pro bowls (voted for by coaches and players by the way 2 thirds)because you suck ass…I did think he had an off year for him and will never be great in coverage. Show me any great strong safeties mind you that can cover the elite T.E.’s or any slot Wr’s. There arent that many. And since we just gave him a huge contract we cant cut him or trade him for another 2 years. People dont understand that. I think he will bounce back this year and if he doesent then we go from there.
A little something I stumbled upon while not doing work I should be doing:
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/falcons/entries/2008/02/24/combine_report.html
(about the 5th paragraph)
While that has nothing to do with his on-field abilities, it’s something to keep in mind. Off-field troubles tend to find their way on the field.
Aside from that, it could also have some effect on how much his asking price is when negotiating a contract. I’m sure all those baby-mommas are going to want a huge chunk of change…
Dam I hate to see what his monthly child support will be.
It aint gonna happen bro.
i agree w/nebuloso’s last 3,4 points
Robert, we need a corner the most. We need a free agent corner (asante samuel) and we need to draft one.
I like Caldwell alot from Florida as a second round receiver, maybe even third. He’s fast and has a lot of heart.
Its funny your all in denial that this isn’t going to happen. It will happen count on it.
Dan,
Samuel would break the bank to sign as a free agent. He’s looking for Clements ($10mil+/year)kind of money. That price is a bit steep for a cover corner that avoids contact at almost any cost and isn’t above being burned, himself (see SBXLII).
Add to that Samuel’s history of pouting over his contract and I think the Cowboys would be better served drafting a young player in the first round and bringing him up slowly (maybe as the nickel CB) for the 2008 season, with an eye towards him taking over for Anthony Henry in 2009.
I’ve never been a fan of trying to buy a championship because it rarely works (see Snyder, Dan for further proof). I’m still a little pissed off at JJ for the whole Deon Sanders fiasco. lol
Oh…forgot to add this…
The latest news is that Philly is hot after Samuel. When I heard it, I couldn’t have been happier. Let the Iggles throw all that money down a hole. They seem to be good at that lately, especially on the defensive side of the ball(Javon Kearse, etc.).
+2more for nebuloso
As a Redskin fan, I hope you guys do trade Marion Barber – and I hope it is to the Redskins. I don’t care if McFadden runs a 3.9 40 yard dash – nobody runs over, under and around defenses like Marion Barber. Marion Barber has proven himself to be one of the top running backs in the NFL. I wouldn’t even trade Marion Barber straight up for McFadden as he hasn’t proved anything in the NFL. My guess is that he will another Reggie Bush type runner – great in the open field and horrible between the tackles.
If Jerry does this it will be a BIG mistake, trading the hardest runner in the league along with those picks for Dmac. We dont nedd him we just need somebody that is better than julius jones. Have yall heard about jerry working a deal to bring in javon walker?
While I agree with most in saying that 3 high picks and Marion Barber is too high of a price to pay for Mcfadden. I remember a very good Dallas team in 1976 that made blockbuster trade (1 1st round & 3 2nd round picks) for the great Tony Dorsett. That ‘77 team won the Superbowl. I know we are just speculating here, but if you beleive Mcfadden has that kind of potential you make the trade. Yes, its a huge gamble and there are good running backs available later in the draft. But truly great running backs are a very rare commodity. I appreciate having a owner that will take that chance and at least explore the option to find greatness.
Yea that is the rumor- Philly will aggressively pursue Samuel. I never liked him much but hes obviously good, although he could have won the Pats their 4th Superbowl had he made that interception which was very makeable. I really like Limas Sweed as a WR but I think there is a chance he may go before our picks. Personally I would like pretty much any of the corners McKelvin, Rogers-Cromartie, Talib, Jenkins, Flowers even Smith. Any one of those guys we can get our hands on we should snag. I love McKelvin, and I think he will be nasty and he also comes from Troy so I expect the kind of toughness like Osi and Demarcus Ware. Of course McKelvin is going to go to the evil empire Patriots and that kills me. I say draft any one of those corners and then if Limas Sweed or Desean Jackson are available for WR take them. Desean Jackson can make an immediate impact on special teams a la Devon Hester and just watching him catch the ball is impressive it looks effortless and he can be a good WR for the future. But if Sweed is available I say take him, he is a tall monster, he is physical, I think can be a good 2nd guy next year and a go-to after 81 leaves or retires. I think he can be a good physical receiver much like T.O. and T.O. isnt going to be around that much longer anyways. There will still be really good RB’s available for our 2nd round pick.
Well I dont appreciate JJ Louie… He is very impulsive and if McFadden went to LSU or Auburn or Kentucky or Florida or whatever other SEC school JJ wouldnt even think about this. I can imagine he is pissed because the Browns decided to have a good season and his little plan didnt work. I like McFadden but I dont think he alone will bring a championship to Dallas, I just dont think he is that prolific. We need to work on the defense, even if McFadden came in and our offense was demonesque and similar to the Pats of this year, if we dont have a good second back and we dont have a lot of other talent because of all we gave up for D-Mac all you need to do is shut him down and if our defense isnt stopping the other team its not like we are going to win. If we had a rock solid amazing defense then i would maybe be for this because perhaps that one guy could push us over the edge but thats not the case.
I hope Philly spends the big dollars on Samuel. He is a very good corner but not worth breaking the bank for. Corners are a premium like left handed picthing in baseball. If your an above average lefty pitcher you will be making elite dollars. Im with John I would love to draft a top 5 corner. Where I differ with him is i would try and draft a RB with on of the 1st round picks. Preferably Mendenhall or Stewart if either drops that far which I doubt. I think we can sign a free agent Wr like Berrian and then draft one in the 2nd or 3rd round…
Louie,
Good point, but there wasn’t a salary cap to consider in 1977…
doubt desean jackson will be available at our piks he ran the fastest 40 among rec’s at the combine
Nebuloso, Another point there is they onyl gave up a 1st round and 3 2nds. Id give that up for Dmac. But todays value for the number one is way more from where we are coming from.
How’s this for an idea? This is what I’d really like to see the Cowboys do…Trade away one of the first round picks (probably the #22 from the Browns) for a 2009 first round pick plus a couple/few 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounders this year or possibly next.Then with the remaining first round pick this year, take the best player available. I can imagine a couple of teams (Atlanta, St. Louis) might be willing to gamble next year’s first round pick (which might – again – be a high one) for an additional first round player this year. Of course, this would depend pretty heavily upon who is still available and what team needs what player.Of course, that team could always pull a Cleveland and inconveniently NOT suck next year as expected.
Nebuloso, Id be all for it as long as there were not some key players we would want for this years run. But if its a top 5 team and they give us their 2nd and 3rd as well then yes im for it.
LandryHat, thoughts on D’Angelo Hall? Gonna cost a 1st round pick and cash… we have a pick we plan to use on w/e corner we can… why not Hall?
funny louie agrees with me and when he is blowing everyone up with a star on his helmet I reserve the right to say I told you so . hahahahahha
What about the Pacman if he ever gets reinstated ? Since you all are concerned about (hold fingers up at you all ) salary cap we could have him for mere pennies ….. muahahahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW-pcmIHH5Y i found a funny clip about the devil though rigo would enjoy it. muhahahaha
Justin,I am considering writing a post about D’angelo Hall. I am unsure about him. Dallas receivers have always burned him so I was never too impressed. But, he’s better than Jaques Reeves. Let me think about Hall more. His attitude sucks, we know that.
My buddy is a Giants fan and he was talking about a Giants move for D’angelo
I heard that, too, John.
I’d be very reluctant to make a move for Hall (or PacMan, for that matter) because of their rather…shall we say, tempestuous history.
We already have one loose cannon on the team (Owens). Granted, he’s been a really good teammate lately, but why tempt fate? They aren’t THAT good to warrant taking that sort of chance.
Can anybody stop Wayne posting in this site, is getting really boring…
Emmitt , got somthing to say ?
Wayne….Come on bro. Dallas Cowboys fans here. COme on!
Guys,
I am fairly new to this site and Wayne has been killing me from day 1. He comes up with the most bizarre and unintelligent stuff I have ever seen.
I make things interesting dave don’t I ?
Wayne,Ill give you credit on that. But I would like to see you back your comments on players such as Adams with an articulate intelligent argument and not something like his couple false starts a game are costing us super bowls.
I can’t believe that so many of you people are against the Cowboys getting Darren McFadden. This non-sense about Marion Barber being an All Pro Running Back. You got to be kidding yourselves. I think Barber should have been starting all season. Never understood why the Cowboy keep started Jones. I’m so happy to see him go. But Barber isn’t the answer to the horriable running game the Cowboy’s have. I saw on a couple occasions Barber getting to play alot in the first half. He can’t cut it. McFadden is the best running back that’s came out of college in a long time. Numbers don’t lie. The combine clearly says that we should sell the farm to get McFadden. I think will win the Super Bowl with McFadden. Without him for get it. Jerry. do your thing. I know you’ve made some questionable choices but we’ve got three more Super Bowl trophies. And I wouldn’t trade all the mistakes he’s made for the decisions that he’s made to get us back to where we are today.