Comments on: Horse-Collar Tackle Rule is Full of Dun http://thelandryhat.com/2007/12/18/horse-collar-tackle-rule-is-full-of-dun/ A Dallas Cowboys Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:54:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: thelandryhat http://thelandryhat.com/2007/12/18/horse-collar-tackle-rule-is-full-of-dun/comment-page-1/#comment-103 thelandryhat Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:29:01 +0000 http://thelandryhat.com/2007/12/18/horse-collar-tackle-rule-is-full-of-dun/#comment-103 Dave, good ideas but I think the NFL wants to penalize it more because of the injuries. I don't know. It just makes tackling a person who is ahead of you a whole lot harder, and that seems a bit unfair. Dave, good ideas but I think the NFL wants to penalize it more because of the injuries. I don’t know. It just makes tackling a person who is ahead of you a whole lot harder, and that seems a bit unfair.

]]> By: Dave http://thelandryhat.com/2007/12/18/horse-collar-tackle-rule-is-full-of-dun/comment-page-1/#comment-102 Dave Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:16:42 +0000 http://thelandryhat.com/2007/12/18/horse-collar-tackle-rule-is-full-of-dun/#comment-102 While I think the Roy Williams tackle is illegal by the current rule, I do have to say I agree with you (believe it or not) that maybe the rule is too harsh.  What exactly does the NFL expect Roy Williams to grab onto in that situation?  Ideally, Williams or any other defender should wait another step and grab the player around the waist for a traditional tackle.  Or he could grab the shirt tail rather than the shoulder pads.  But in reality, at full speed, you grab what you can grab, and you can't guarantee you will be able to make up that step and grab him anywhere else.I am generally in favor of tilting some of the rules regarding contact back toward the defense.  And while I see the prolem with injuries from the horse collar, it is difficult to see how you can always avoid using it.  Perhaps the best thing to do is a 5 and 15 yard version like we have with facemasks.  This most recent one would be a 5 yard version the way I would envision it.-DW While I think the Roy Williams tackle is illegal by the current rule, I do have to say I agree with you (believe it or not) that maybe the rule is too harsh.  What exactly does the NFL expect Roy Williams to grab onto in that situation?  Ideally, Williams or any other defender should wait another step and grab the player around the waist for a traditional tackle.  Or he could grab the shirt tail rather than the shoulder pads.  But in reality, at full speed, you grab what you can grab, and you can’t guarantee you will be able to make up that step and grab him anywhere else.I am generally in favor of tilting some of the rules regarding contact back toward the defense.  And while I see the prolem with injuries from the horse collar, it is difficult to see how you can always avoid using it.  Perhaps the best thing to do is a 5 and 15 yard version like we have with facemasks.  This most recent one would be a 5 yard version the way I would envision it.-DW

]]> By: thelandryhat http://thelandryhat.com/2007/12/18/horse-collar-tackle-rule-is-full-of-dun/comment-page-1/#comment-101 thelandryhat Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:12:28 +0000 http://thelandryhat.com/2007/12/18/horse-collar-tackle-rule-is-full-of-dun/#comment-101 Coach Wade Phillips has the last word here: "Roy’s been in on 105 tackles now, and three of them have been on that variety," Phillips said. "I mean, a guy that does it one out of 15 plays, is he worse than Roy? Percentage-wise, certainly he is. Roy’s involved so much in all this, and it’s not a horse-collar tackle if you’re tackling in the line of scrimmage. But if it’s outside, it is. <p>"So where you are … there's a lot of factors involved in my opinion. But that’s why they have the process. That’s why we have the appeal. We’ll see what happens."</p> Coach Wade Phillips has the last word here: "Roy’s been in on 105 tackles now, and three of them have been on
that variety," Phillips said. "I mean, a guy that does it one out of 15
plays, is he worse than Roy? Percentage-wise, certainly he is. Roy’s
involved so much in all this, and it’s not a horse-collar tackle if
you’re tackling in the line of scrimmage. But if it’s outside, it is.

"So where you are … there’s a lot of factors involved in my opinion.
But that’s why they have the process. That’s why we have the appeal.
We’ll see what happens."

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